1863 Remington “Thin Plate” Cartridge Conversions by Walt Kirst

Walt Kirst of Kirst Konverter LLC has reproduced a total of 6 Remington “Thin Plate” conversion revolvers. Walt used 1858 Pietta frames and custom machined parts to recreate these rare Remington revolvers, which are historically correct firearms, except that they are now chambered for the popular .45 Colt cartridge.

These historically correct Second Type Remington conversions are offered for $1,495.

Note to buyers: These cartridge conversion revolvers are classified as a firearm and must be delivered to an FFL dealer of your choice, or you can locate a licensed dealer in your area by going to www.fflgundealers.net.

To purchase one of these revolvers please contact Walt Kirst directly at 763-300-1981 or send an email to kirstkonverter@gmail.com.

type 2 konverter

Remington 1863 Type 2 conversion with ejector

The History of Remington Large Bore Conversion Revolvers

The Remington New Model Army revolver was first introduced in 1863, replacing their model 1861 Army revolver. 128,575 Remington percussion revolvers were supplied to Union Armies during the Civil War.

After the War the United States ordnance department was in possession of countless thousands of the then obsolete percussion revolvers from Remington, Colt and other manufacturers. Many of these pieces were sold to mustering out soldiers; thousands were sold at public auction, while thousands remained in the government’s possession. Numerous iterations and experimental examples of cartridge conversion methods were tried by the government, various manufacturers and many individuals.

In February 1868 Remington signed an agreement with Smith & Wesson, licensing Remington to use S&W’s Rollin White patent. With this agreement, Remington converted 4,574 of their percussion Army revolvers to cartridge. These converted revolvers were delivered to S&W along with a $1.00 per revolver royalty; the majority of them were, in turn, delivered to Benjamin Kittredge, a major arms dealer in the Mid-West and Western United States. These revolvers were produced during 1868 and 1869 in a bare bones configuration to keep costs down. By the end of 1869 Remington had completed the contract and Rollin White's Patent had expired. Those 4,574 Remington Army conversions are today classified as the Remington First Type conversion revolver, or the Remington/Smith & Wesson conversion.

After Rollin White's Patent expired, Remington was free to manufacture conversion revolvers without the cost burden of royalties. They added a cartridge ejector to the First Type configuration and classified it as the Second Type conversion revolver. Next, they added a recessed ramp preceding the cylinder stop-bolt notches, thus creating the Third Type conversion revolver. The first, second and third type conversion revolvers were all manufactured with a 5-shot cylinder chambered for the .46 caliber short rimfire cartridge.

engraved 1858 Remington for sale

Engraved 1858 Remington Conversion
from Walt Kirst’s personal collection - $975

This is Walt’s custom made 1858 Remington Conversion from his personal collection. He created this revolver to look like the factory cartridge conversions that Remington originally produced. Remington offered this style of factory engraving to enhance the look of their converted percussion revolvers, back in the days when they were competing for sales against the first cartridge firing revolvers.

It is a Stainless Steel Uberti 1858 Remington with a 45 LC Kirst Cartridge Konverter®, featuring Remington factory style engraving; but what sets this apart from all other revolvers is the engraving on the backstrap: “WJ Kirst, Inventor, Fridley MN”. There will also be a personalized Letter of Provenance included from Walt Kirst to the new buyer.

NOTE: There is no percussion cylinder for this. The sale will be completed from our FFL to your FFL. Buyer also pays $35 for shipping & insurance.

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